An interviewer chats with contributor Paella about identity, career transitions and forging one’s own pathway, exploring personal stories, betting on oneself and the role of community connection in that journey.
Cadre is designed for conversation, for connection with peers and professionals. We interview contributors about once a week to tap into a whole different way in which we communicate. Who are you? What do you do? How do you feel when you're asked those questions?
So, Jules and Jan, Colleen, everybody who's tuning on in, think about the titles that you place on your existence. Take Paella's invitation to. To journey and to go today. I am. I'm allowing myself to realize.
Paella has always talked about this idea of forging your own pathway. "I'm literally forging my own path," she says. She says you can bet on yourself. It's like, you can create your reality.
So if you're tuning in right now or watching this in replay later on, share what pathway that you are forging right now. I want to educate people in a very different way where it's not a classroom teacher, but use everybody's story to really inspire and share.
So I always love asking our guests, what's the take home prize that you want to give to people who have been tuning in? Believe in yourself. If you aren't going to believe in yourself, who else is going to? We need to get RuPaul as a guest.
Paya: Where can people find you in the Cadre sphere? When do you go live and what kind of content do you create here? Next time, we're going to be traveling to Denver and talking with Kristen Grimes. Have a great day.
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For conversation, for connection with peers and professionals, to find resources to knit into this community, to remind you that there are many ways to be well, Jules, Good morning, my friend. Nice to see you. And it's Cadre Today interview time. So, Paella who You can watch Paella's live from yesterday, but how are you doing today? I'm doing well. I am keeping warm. It's. We're in Minnesota. It's January, it's cold, and yet I'm accepting it. You know, I'm like, it's January. It's cold. I'm not gonna complain because last summer was really hot.
So I'm okay with the cold, and I'm very comfortable, so I can't complain. So I'm doing very well. I have my cup of coffee. My. I don't think you guys can see it by bae. It's best ever. So I'm a bae. I'm a best auntie ever. So, yeah, the kids gave this to me. So, yeah, I'm ready for a conversation today. Perfect. Hey, Jules, do you have your coffee with you? I know it's a little bit later in the morning, but I hope you have your coffee in the Cadre sphere up north as well. So Paella Jules is up in, like, lake of the woods area.
So, Jan, good morning, my friend. Nice to see you join in today's conversation. So if you're wondering why you see two faces right now, we realize, right, just as we create prerecorded content, as we have the community feed and we have our communities and we have live streams, there's something powerful about seeing people in conversation with one another. So I have the opportunity to interview our contributors about once a week to go ahead and tap into a whole different way in which we communicate, and that is through connection.
So we have kind of a flow to these conversations. And the flow starts with the question you see on the top of the screen right now. Who are you? What do you do? And most importantly how do you feel when you're asked those questions? So paella, who are you? What do you do? And when you get asked those questions, how does it make you feel? You know, I used to be so straightforward about my identity and I, I'm so I'm trained as a social worker and I'm a therapist right now and I'm actually going to be transitioning out of there.
And so when people ask me LinkedIn, the kids, like my family, I almost kind of like, oh my God, what am I? It's almost like having this identity crisis. And so I'm like, okay, I'm three Cs now. I'm going to 2025. I'm the three Cs which I am going to be a coach. I'm focusing coach empowerment life coaching. And I want, I'm focusing doing on organizational consultant. And the last one I thought I will never call myself this a content creator. It's like, what is that? I think most people don't know what consulting is too.
I didn't know what consulting is because it's such a broad term. What exactly do you do? And when you hear someone tell you what they do for consulting, it's like I have no idea what you did. You just made that stuff up. And in a way when I look at all this, I'm like, did I make my title of some sort of consultant up to. In a way it is, but my work is to focus on the well being of people in organizations and it's like the humanistic approach and it's like, is there such a thing in business to focus on the human, the workers versus numbers and profit.
And so I'm going from like a totally opposite of business where I'm thinking about the human and then empowerment life coaching. They're like, what do you do as a life coach? Like what, what do you even do? I'm like, that's a great question. I am doing what you and I are doing right now to empower people to create the life that you want. Like create your reality. And it seems so far fetched and I believe that we can create that. And again that's why you and I are here. You know, we're creating our reality, we're talking here.
I never thought in five years that I would be doing things like this. So identity crisis. And I say I'm a coach, consultant and content creator. I love that. And again like, like paya, you, you referenced a couple of times that it's like, did I make this up. Well, even if you didn't, someone else did. Right? This whole world, in the way that we look at our human experience, we are the ones going, here's what I'm going to call this thing, or here's the title I'm going to put on this person. And at the end of the day, to have people who can help us go.
So what does that really mean? And what do you place within the vessel of that word, I think is such a gift for people? And like you say, it's what we're doing here every day, allowing people the space to go. So what are we doing, how are we doing? And how are we understanding this life that we are experiencing? So, Jules and Jan, Colleen, everybody who's tuning on in, think about the titles that you place on your existence. And if you go, gosh, I don't know who I am. I don't know what I do. Take Paella's invitation to.
To journey and to go today. I am. I'm moving towards. I'm allowing myself to realize. So, Paella, as you talk about your content creation, I know recently you started podcasts, but also, since the day I met you, you've always talked about this idea of forging your own pathway. What's on the wall behind me? Behind you? Yep. Your own pathway. Right. I love that wall art because it allows us to go, where are we going and what are we doing? So I ask every one of our interviewees, hey, what do you want to talk about?
And that's as vague as the prompt is. And everybody goes, I'd love to talk about X. And your ex was forging your own pathway. So why is this friend of mine for you? You know, you and I talked about this, like, as an elder millennial, I think we were taught very, go to school, go to college, find a major, find the love of your life in college and settle down all before 30 so that you can meet society's status quo and, you know, be like everybody else. And I tried doing all that. I tried doing all that, and I thought to myself, is this what my life is?
Is this what my Life is? I'm 30. I'm supposed to do this for the next 35 years of my life. Is this. Is this all that there is to life? I'm like, there's got to be a different way. And I've always been the dreamer in my family. I have a. I come from a family of six siblings and one sister, and so I somehow, I'm the dreamer of the family. I'm the dreamer of the family, and I would talk about these dreams, and everybody was like, shoot me down. It's like, you got to be the analytical. Think with your head.
Don't think with your heart. Don't think with your soul. Think with your head. Think about the numbers. What are you going to do? So I grew up very scarcity. And so to do what I'm doing right now is so scary. And yet into 22, 2022, I was like, you know what? Life is too short. Life is too short. I gotta chase after my dreams and create my own reality. And so I started that path, and then 20, 24, something switches. Like, you really gotta chase. Like, you really gotta forge your own path. And so when I talk about empowering you all to forge your own path, I.
I'm literally forging my own path. So everything that you all are feeling, I am feeling it so much too. So whatever I'm feeling, I know how you all are feeling. I know how you all are feeling. The fear, the anxiety, the uncertainty. It's like, what am I doing? And then some days it's like, yeah, I got this. I got this. It's like, I don't got this. Okay, let me look at my journal. Wow. I had a lot of fear. Look at all these words that I was writing. And then it's like, you know what? You're going to be okay.
So all the emotions that I feel, it's. What about. It's like, you can create your life. You really can. You need to bet on yourself. Too many of us do not bet on ourselves, so that's the first thing. Bet on yourself. So that's why I'm here. It's like, you can create your reality. So forge your own path and own that path well. And. And, you know, so. So if you're tuning in right now or watching this in replay later on, share what pathway that you are forging right now. Because again, that's another one of those questions where you may go.
Like, if I said, hey, what's two plus two? It may take you a second, and you'll go, oh, it's four. But if you go, hey, what pathway are you forging right now? You may go, huh? And it may take you a long time to really consider what you're doing and why you're doing it. And I think that's the invitation that you're offering, Paella, right? To go ahead and consider. It's like, what are you doing? Why are you doing it? And then how do you put all yourself into that, that pathway? Yeah, you know, that's a good question.
My pathway. I decided that as a therapist I have so much knowledge, I have so much skills and as a woman I have so much lived and learned experience. And I thought, you know, instead of doing one on one work, why don't I use all my skills and knowledge and everything I learned to put it out there to help people. You know, therapy, we've always been taught to do like one on one work, especially when do clinical work. And the only other way that we're taught to help people is by doing the legislation work.
And so I'm kind of going outside of the box and being like, why can't I be a creator, an educator? I, I find the word influencer being really hard for me. Other people own it right now. I'm not to the part where I to call myself an influencer. I want to be an educator. That's what I am, an educator about all these things to how to take care of yourself, how to work in your mindset, how to, how to care for yourself when you're going through this journey like the ups and downs and everything that you're going to feeling acknowledge it and don't just be like, well you know, I, I'm not going to feel it.
It's like feel it, feel those emotions, acknowledge it and see, sit through it. I think we've been taught to never sit with our feelings. I'm saying sit with everything that you're feeling. Acknowledge it and move through it, not over it, through it. So I want to educate people in a very different way where it's not a classroom teacher, but use everybody's story to really inspire and share saying if they can do it, you can do it also. I mean, and you circled back to kind of where we started today.
And that is, you know, on the who are we and what are we? You know, again like the word influencer, it's a word and it's a word that sooner or later someone decided, oh, I'm going to start calling myself an influencer. And all of a sudden now there's this paradigm or there's this assumed shared truth that an influencer is a specific thing. You know, I always love saying like every, everybody has influence. Yes, everybody educates, everybody impacts, everybody, everybody. If we are existing with one another, we are doing those things.
But when we place focus on, on one of those things, we can amplify what we're doing in that way. So for you to go, I'm gonna, I'm gonna educate people. Like you're setting up a really cool pathway for people to go. If we say what we're gonna do, we end up starting doing it more and more because people go, oh, this person is going to teach me something, or this person is going to show me something, or this person's going to, you know, make me aware of something I wasn't aware of before. So I love that you're even forging your own pathway and bringing educator into the context of how you look at what you do.
Yeah. Thank you. I, I, I think we have really narrow viewpoints about certain words like being an educator, teaching the classroom. And it's not what, it's not what I'm doing. I'm teaching, but I'm teaching in a mass way where I want to reach more people versus just one or two people or like 30 people. It's like whoever wants to watch it, it is. And if I do a video, it's there, it's a reference. You can always come back to it. So yeah, I just wanted to, I just want to inspire, empower. And my whole thing is a lot of us grew up in less than ideal circumstances and it's so easy to be stuck and see yourself as a victim.
And my whole intention of forging your own path is like, yeah, we all grow less than ideal experiences. And don't let that stop you from choosing that path. Forging your own path, is it going to be hard? Heck yeah, it's going to be hard. It's probably going to be one of the hardest things to do is believe in yourself, believing that you can do this and you can do this by surrounding yourself with the right people, having the right supports. Again, it all starts with your inner work. And that's the most important part, is the inner work.
That's what I'm focused on is forging on path is doing the inner work and then also finding the right allies and external resources to help you on this path also. I love it. As we wrap up today's conversation between the two of us and everybody at home, we always, I, we engage in these moments and often moments are great, but without mindfully, you know, going, so what am I going to take away from this? Often those moments can kind of pass by. So I always love asking our guests, what's the take home prize that you want to give to people who have been tuning in?
And by take home prize, I mean we've just had a 15 minute conversation. What's, what's sticking with you if you're going to be like, hey, remember this one thing that came up from people connecting today? What would be your take home price for people pay? It may sound simple, but believe in yourself. Simple and hard and ever changing. And also the thing that we always need to remember again and again and again and again. Because hey, if you aren't going to believe in yourself, who else is going to?
Right? Believe in yourself. RuPaul 101. If you aren't going to believe in yourself, who else is going to? That's right, honey. Yeah. All right. We need to get RuPaul as a guest. That's right, we do. All right. Well, hey, paella, where can people find you in the Cadre sphere? When do you go live and what kind of content do you create here? Yeah. So on Mondays, I am on live at 3pm I talk about mental health in the workplace, called your own pathway in the workplace. And then on Wednesdays at 3pm I talk about forging your own path about everything that we just talked about today.
So yeah, so I'm on twice a week now and it's been fun. It's great and I love it. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to be here and to be part of the Kyrie sphere. We love you being here, my friend. So make sure you check out Paya's interview live streams and if you go, huh? Do people exist outside the Cadresphere too? Absolutely. Connect with us in ways that make sense to you in ways that that fit into your regular days and flows. My next time interviewing someone in the Cadre sphere is I'm speaking slow as I pull up my calendar next Friday.
So January 24th, we're going to be bopping over to Denver and talking with our resident feel good, no shame dietitian Kristen Grimes. It's going to be a Friday happy hour, 4pm on Friday, 4pm Central Standard Time, 3pm Mountain, 5pm Eastern. But in the meantime, pay. I hope you have a great rest of the day. Stay warm inside with that cup of coffee. Jules, stay warm. Colleen, stay warm. Jan, stay warm, everybody. We'll see you later. Have a good one. Thank you everybody. Have a great day.
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