Two Cadre creators reflect on Lionel Messi's 17‑year pursuit of greatness, distinguishing driven, consistent action from fleeting motivation and discussing how obsession with goals relates to burnout.
Cadre crew is on the road. Brennan and myself share some thoughts on our incredible Monday motivation. We're two creators, wellness experts here at Cadre.
Lionel Messi took 17 years to become one of the greatest all skilled striker sport players in the World cup of all time. What do you think that he did to cultivate that motivation and keep that going? Luke, what are your thoughts on motivation versus being driven?
How do some of the most driven people still not find themselves in burnout? When you become obsessed with goals, where burnout is not on the table. How do you think Messi's motivation will change now that he's achieved his goal?
What up, Cadre crew? Here we are. It's a little after 02:00 today. We're on the road. I got Brennan and myself here. We're two creators, wellness experts here at Cadre. Excited to be here for a couple minutes to share some thoughts on our incredible Monday motivation. One thing that I wanted to just hit on today, you know, Lionel Messi, I mean, how about this? This man, 17 years, 17 years in the making to try to become one of the greatest all skilled striker sport players in the World cup of all time.
He needed that elusive World cup win, right? He needed that elusive World cup win, and he got it yesterday. Unbelievable, unbelievable experience for him. But what I really want you to take away and think about is 17 years. 17 years it took him to get there. So when you're thinking about quitting, when you're thinking about the struggle, when you're thinking about, you know, a tough week, a tough month, a tough year, 17 years for the amazing Argentinian. Remarkable. So I just really want you to take a step back today and think about that in your life on some of your struggles that maybe you've had, had, whether it's personally, professionally, athletically, performance based wise, whatever that is, those struggles happen, and those struggles are real.
But just know that you have the opportunity to do whatever it takes as well to get there over time. Maybe it's year one, maybe it's year two and maybe three. 5710, never give up on your dreams, never give up on your goals, and keep working your tail off for it because it's so, so worth it. Do you have any questions or thoughts about that? What's up? Actually, I want to use Messi as your example, and I would like to ask a question about, you know, starting out, he took 718 years to get this achievement, this accomplishment.
Yes. And from you, Luke, what do you think that he did in order to, like, cultivate, first of all, that motivation? I've got three questions in linear. Okay, what do you think that he did to cultivate that motivation and keep that going? Yep. So, so the. Oh, boy. Watch out here. Okay, so, number one, as far as the motivation, that's a question that I believe is best determined not by that word, and please don't take it the wrong way. I think where individuals lose sight of the fact of a guy like Messi is he's not motivated.
Motivated isn't the right word. He's driven. Right. He's driven every day. It's constant, consistent action towards his goal and his dream like motivation. Honestly, and I mean, this most loving way. Motivation is a tag word, motivates. But it's really crap. What's. What's the truth is people that are driven, people that are driven day in and day out, it's consistent, constant action. If you need that motivation, if you need those next things all the time, like, there will come a point that. That motivation, the.
Well, dries out, right. But people that do it year in and year out, like, you look at the goats. What are they? Longevity. They have these long careers, the longevity of it and whatnot. So always take that into consideration when you're talking about motivation versus being driven. So that's. I mean, again, he's probably one of the most driven human beings, year 17 in that we've ever seen, probably in soccer or football. Okay, that's number one. So the second one would be. And that kind of leads into my next question anyways, is so moving on from motivated to driven, and even driven people, I think, will have a moment where they burn out or they have a day where they're just like.
Just like, can't quite bring up that energy that they once had with a burnout date. Yeah, that's. That. That's a great question. You know, burnout. The question was this, just in case you had a hard time hearing, how do some of the most driven people still not find themselves in burnout? Right? How do they. How do they not get into the burnout cycle? Which is a great question. When you become obsessed with goals and when you become obsessed with what you're trying to ultimately accomplish. I'll tell you, Brendan, burnout's not on the table, man.
Like, burnout. Burnout is not something, an individual's vernacular that they go to and think of when they're trying to reach their goals. Like, you truly become obsessed with your mission of reaching that new high, reaching your 17 years. And by new high, I mean, maybe it's breaking your five k record. Maybe it's starting a new business. Maybe it's your practice of. Right. And you're trying to achieve those goals, and there's those dreams, and you become almost to the point of obsessed, where burnout is not, in your vernacular, verbiage of something that you will discuss or even have on the table as an option.
You just keep working your way through it, man, like, all the time. Does that make sense? Yes. And my last question is, since Messi now achieved something that he's been trying for for so long, how do you think his motivation will change now that he's achieved his goal? Yeah. You know, that's great. So now that he's achieved something that he's been after so long, now, how do you think his motivation will be after? So there's two different types of people, right? There's two different, like athletes.
Let's just look at athletes as such. The athletes that are hungry, hungry, hungry and tell. Right. I'll use an example. Football players. Football players go through high school, they go through college, they ultimately make the NFL rank. They get their big contract. Then they're like, I lost my dog or I lost my this or I lost my that, right. You know, I lost my grit, I lost my, my dog mentality, lost whatever, because I got paid, right? So I think those are the big differentiators, is the individuals that aren't doing it for the one big in glory.
That is the one big payment, the one big this, the one big championship, the one big ring, the one big whatever. But how do you come back from that and keep it going? And what I would say is they don't need to get paid a dollar for what they do when their body tells them it's time, is when they basically hang it up. Right. Maybe it's peak performance in their eyes. Maybe it's, you know, the shelf game of my injuries or whatever, right. Or mentally, I, I'm not there anymore. I'm not as sharp as I once was in the game is usually when people kind of like pull themselves away, but it's not for, it's not for lack of obsession of the game or it's not for lack of drive for their goals and their achievements.
These same individuals will find their next thing. Maybe it's their family, maybe it's business. Maybe it's, you know, passion projects of XYZ. They love what they do. Yeah. And when you love what you do, a lot of those things that you talked about, Brennan, kind of, you know, I go back to like, they really aren't on the table. Yeah. If that makes sense. Absolutely. So, so I think what I got, just to summarize that is, I mean, we started with motivation. We went to driven up to full on life purpose.
That's correct. That's what I got. Well, you know, Messi's, Messi found his purpose. My gut is, is he probably never forget for will forget the, you know, the very first time he held the soccer ball. He'll probably never forget what it was like to have that first blade of grass on his shoe. He probably will never feel forget what it's like. Those are what makes people great at what they do is they become obsessed with those things. Right? And you're, to your point of like, you're driven. You're driven on becoming the greatest at.
You're driven at becoming the best, you know, person that fills up gaps station as a gas attendant, you're driven at becoming the best Amazon employee. You're driven at becoming the best creator, you're driven at becoming. And you just keep fueling your fire for more and more and more. So with that, again, taking everybody from the Lionel Messi story of becoming motivated to driven to love and passion, we hope that you all can find yours too. So have an amazing day. Take care, everybody. It's so great to hear from anybody at Cadre.
Have a wonderful week. We have Christmas coming up. We have the holiday celebrations. We have Hanukkah driving right now. Have an amazing, amazing end to your year. This is the last live from me beforehand. So take care of everybody and yeah, love you all and send well wishes to you and your family.
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